David Wineberg is among those who "bring up that Americans just got out of two unnecessary wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. They omit the merits of military involvement on the side of Ukraine. By standing aside, American politicians would act consistently: They screwed up America when going into wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and they screw up America when trying to avoid wars that might be inevitable, like in Ukraine." The quote is from: "Should Americans be ready to die for Donbas?"